AI 批量克隆 Photoshop 等商业软件,作者批评质量与生态破坏
Attack of the Vibe Coded Photoshop Clones
作者 riffraff 批评当下十余个用 AI vibe-coded 方式克隆 Photoshop 与其他商业软件的项目,称这些复制品质量低劣,正在损害正版软件开发动力。
从引擎性能、文件兼容性等指标对比 Photoshop 与多个 AI 克隆项目,评判这类 vibe-coded 复制对软件创新的影响。
Over the last several months I have been tracking AI guys trying to create vibe coded clones of popular apps, especially Adobe’s apps which have always been the most pirated apps since the 90s.
There are now about a dozen vibe coded attempts to clone Photoshop and some other Adobe apps, not including dozens of forks of them. People like this aren't just openly copying Adobe's apps. It's Microsoft, Avid, Autodesk and whoever else is in their sights next including game devs big and small.
Automated or semi-automated cloning to steal revenue away from developers isn’t new. In the early 2000s when Google released Adsense hundreds of Adsense filled spam sites sprung up and cluttered the search engines. If your own site ever had a popular page or article, bots would clone your pages and republish your content on spam sites, stealing traffic away from you. That’s the same unethical and spammy behaviour we are seeing today when AI guys vibe-clone a copy of your apps.
Directly stealing the look and feel of a product but changing the name is what the counterfeit goods market does. This is the same thing but in software.
The amount being spent in AI tokens (API costs) is in the thousands of dollars per project. The largest attempt to vibe clone Adobe’s apps has over 70 devs at the time of writing (update: 165 now, it is rising daily) using Claude to submit 100s of pull requests per day. The amount they are spending on tokens must be over $50,000 in the last two weeks. I will not name this project and don’t want to give them traffic that they do not deserve. Those dozens of devs will be spamming all the social media platforms with their alt accounts anyway.
Yet despite this not one of these vibe coded projects has been able to create a brush engine that matches Photoshop’s brush engine. The performance of their brushes collapses once the canvas size is over 8K x 8K pixels. Photoshop’s brushes work smoothly even when you’re working with 100 megapixel images out of a Hasselblad or Phase One camera. If you’re trying to build a Photoshop competitor in the year 2026 you should be building the engine first and then adding all the advanced features on top later, not the other way around. Unless your intention is just to generate headlines and promote an AI business.
In the Photoshop clone that is getting the most attention, on the billboard size canvas test above Copy/Paste and the Undo stack is extremely slow and momentarily freezes the application each time. This is basic stuff that decent software developers had working well 25 years ago when we had single core computers and nowhere close to 1GB of memory. If you can't get decent performance today on multicore multi gigahertz computers with many gigabytes of memory you or your AI are not doing a good job.
Those defending the poor performance of vibe coded apps have parroted the famous lines AI guys used in the past - “It is only days old” and “this is the worst it gets”. They make the mistake of equating human app development time with generative AI development time (hundreds of times faster). A vibe coded app is, in human hours, not only a few days old but closer to two or three years old. If a brush engine or transform tool works badly after the human equivalent of three years of development that is a demonstration of bad planning or an AI model not doing a good job.
Brush performance aside, each of these projects struggle with 100% file format compatibility and lossless image editing. Image previews while applying filters are downscaled to low res previews to maintain usable speed. Colour profile rendering and soft proofing is hit and miss. Support for the vast number of colour profiles and print profiles is bare. On some platforms many common fonts aren’t available because they require licensing. So instead of innovating and pushing forward they have successfully rewinded the clock back to 1996 when there was a lack of industry standardisation, compatibility and quality.
They’re spending minimum $2K to vibe code a Photoshop competitor when Affinity Photo is free and Photoshop costs $200 a year. Not very smart economics.
They rant and claim the era of subscription software is finished, but they are subscribed to AI services and AI software. The amount they are paying to AI companies is far higher than the cost of Adobe, Autodesk, Canva or Maxxon applications, and the result is barely usable vibe coded apps that will need to be continually maintained at high cost.
Vibe coders brag about their app binaries being much smaller than Adobe’s app binaries, as if that has something to do with the quality of the code. It does not. Application code (which is just text) takes up very little disk space in any application. What takes up the most amount of disk space are the frameworks, libraries, models and media assets an app ships with. The more advanced and capable an app is the larger it will become. But the size on disk is largely irrelevant in the age of terabyte+ size disks. The size of an app in memory, the app’s performance and its stability are how you judge the quality of an application.
Continuing from the last point, they and internet commentors have often made claims that Adobe’s apps have “bloat” in them, but if you ask them to qualify what they mean by bloat they cannot. They will revert to application binary size again. These are mostly people who have no knowledge of programming and parrot each other. An app either has good quality code that performs well or it doesn’t. An app can have tons of redundant functions in it but functions do not run unless they are called by a tool.
Whether software is vibe coded or not, open source software has rarely challenged commercial software. Krita has been around for years and is a decent application, but Clip Studio Paint’s subscriptions earn Celsys millions of dollars a year. Nobody is giving up Clip Studio Paint for software that has rough edges. Blender is a fantastic application, but expensive high end apps like Maya are still the 3D animation applications of choice for larger studios and commercial productions.
In a 2026 survey of 150 CG production companies in Japan, when asked for their main 3D animation suite 58% named Maya, 17% 3ds Max, 12% Blender, and 7% Cinema 4D. The picture is similar elsewhere.
Commercial apps innovate and lead. Open source apps like Blender follow the lead. Innovation costs a lot of money. Clip Paint Studio, Maya, 3ds Max and Cinema 4D, btw, are all subscription applications. But because those apps aren’t in demand by pirates Autodesk has not experienced the hate and bullying campaigns that Adobe has received.
And when it comes to customer support things become even sadder looking. One or two guys in a Discord chatroom cannot support a global user base, especially when those two guys are hunting for underage children to speak to on Discord (yes, I have seen what vibe coders do).
Here we see Photoshop versus a vibe-cloned copy of Photoshop. We test brush stroke performance on a billboard-size canvas with the brush set to 1000 pixels size. Photoshop handles this with no issue. Its commercial competitors struggle to match brush performance. The vibe-coded clones perform the worst (basically unusable).
The saddest part in all this is how it feeds into the ignorance and online hate campaign against Adobe that we have seen in the last 5 or so years. Some have labelled it ‘Adobe derangement syndrome’, but whatever it is it is a mix of stock market manipulation (some admit it) and anger that Photoshop has been getting harder to pirate ever since cloud services were integrated into Adobe’s application suite.
An example above of the kind of misinformation spreading low-lifes that infest Reddit and LinkedIn.
We should clear the air here. Subscription software exists when cloud services and cloud compute are integrated into a software suite. It is the only way to pay for the running costs at wide scale. If you remove these modern services there is limited progress in software development. You'll have to move all high cost compute locally which is impractical because most users cannot afford a high end workstation GPU or cloud server.
Instead of hurling hate speech and bile at thousands of software engineers who lead innovation at large companies (Adobe, Autodesk, Maxxon, Celsys, and others), show them some gratitude for their efforts. They are the engineers who innovate and everyone else follows. Just because they work at a big company doesn't mean they are committing human rights abuses. We have a generation brainwashed by envy and hate instead of urging everyone to be greater and bigger.
If some people have an issue with companies being large, they now have the tools to compete against them. But instead of vibe cloning poor quality rip offs why not build new original creative applications around fresh ideas that have never been tried before?
But then again, vibe cloned piracy is a demotivating force. It ruins the incentive to create. Why create new original apps and games if someone comes along and rips you off?
You’re giving yourself too much credit Brandon. There are dozens of people in your GitHub repo and they are all subscribed to a chatbot that is doing almost all the coding after being fed screenshots of Adobe’s apps.
来源:Hacker News · shokunin.studio